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recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: F. Baker    Posted: 2006-01-31 00:23:24    Length: 497 byte(s)
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I have a Dell Latitude C640 and the onboard wireless is
no good anymore.

The laptop has Fedora Core 3 installed and otherwise is working
well.

I need a recommendation for a wireless card for this laptop that
is 100% bulletproof and foolproof with Fedora Core 3 -- kernel-level
recognized with driver and no major installation headaches.
Please advise.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

baker@deslab.MIT.edu
1/31/05

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Michal Jaegermann    Posted: 2006-01-31 06:29:51    Length: 1,122 byte(s)
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In comp.os.linux.portable Nico Kadel-Garcia [nkadel@comcast.net] wrote:
QUOTE


And for reference with wireless cards: life can get very strange if your
wireless card winds up showing up as eth0 when installed, and moves the
built-in network device to eth1. Getting the kernel modules associated with
the correct network device and the eth0 and eth1 setups associated with the
right devices can be an adventure.

So why embark on it?  Tying HWADDR to each device will prevent these
from moving around and 'neat', a.k.a. 'system-config-network', should do
that for you.  In any case you can always edit
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* files and add that yourself.
Also 'nameif' is called by network scripts which implies that you can
use /etc/mactab to name your network devices.  See 'man nameif'.

   Michal

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Nicholas DePetrillo    Posted: 2006-01-31 07:18:09    Length: 1,087 byte(s)
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:23:24 -0500, F. Baker wrote:

QUOTE

I need a recommendation for a wireless card for this laptop that
is 100% bulletproof and foolproof with Fedora Core 3 -- kernel-level
recognized with driver a

My suggestion is any card based on the Prism 2/2.5 chipset. It's well supported in the
Linux kernel.

Check here:
http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card

for a list of Prism2 based cards. That list may not be as current as
others, check Google for more.

--
Nick DePetrillo
Network Security Engineer
OSHEAN
PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vin...arch=0x121245B5

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Nico Kadel-Garcia    Posted: 2006-01-31 07:52:35    Length: 2,141 byte(s)
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"Nicholas DePetrillo" [nick_usenet@oshean.org] wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.31.12.17.52.988477@oshean.org...
QUOTE
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:23:24 -0500, F. Baker wrote:


I need a recommendation for a wireless card for this laptop that
is 100% bulletproof and foolproof with Fedora Core 3 -- kernel-level
recognized with driver a

My suggestion is any card based on the Prism 2/2.5 chipset. It's well
supported in the
Linux kernel.

Check here:
http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card

for a list of Prism2 based cards. That list may not be as current as
others, check Google for more.

And for reference with wireless cards: life can get very strange if your
wireless card winds up showing up as eth0 when installed, and moves the
built-in network device to eth1. Getting the kernel modules associated with
the correct network device and the eth0 and eth1 setups associated with the
right devices can be an adventure.

RedHat puts the SSID and key settings in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scipts/ifcfg-[device-name] for use by uwconfig, and
sets the values by running the "network" init script, not when it sets up
the device itself in what I remember as the "pcmcia" init script. So all
that documentation about setting up different keys and SSID's for different
networks and devices in the pcmcia tools? Ignore it unless you replace
RedHat's kernel-pcmcia-cs tool with the author's own bare software before
RedHat touched it.

This is one fo the few times RedHat mangles an author's own configuration
tools: I agree with them that this mangling is easier to manage than the
original, but it's burdensome for someone figuring it out on their own.

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Nico Kadel-Garcia    Posted: 2006-01-31 11:43:11    Length: 1,838 byte(s)
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"Michal Jaegermann" [michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca] wrote in message
news:dro39v$d4p$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
QUOTE
In comp.os.linux.portable Nico Kadel-Garcia [nkadel@comcast.net] wrote:


And for reference with wireless cards: life can get very strange if your
wireless card winds up showing up as eth0 when installed, and moves the
built-in network device to eth1. Getting the kernel modules associated
with
the correct network device and the eth0 and eth1 setups associated with
the
right devices can be an adventure.

So why embark on it?  Tying HWADDR to each device will prevent these
from moving around and 'neat', a.k.a. 'system-config-network', should do
that for you.  In any case you can always edit
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* files and add that yourself.
Also 'nameif' is called by network scripts which implies that you can
use /etc/mactab to name your network devices.  See 'man nameif'.

As I remember from the last time I did this, system-config-network didn't
present the HWADDR as an option to set, you had to do it by hand. And the X
version of that tool is seriously different from the ncurses based, no X
needed version in its available option.

Unfortunately, even if you set it, if you then reboot with the PCMCIA device
unplugged, kudzu will attempt to flush the matching drivers and network
configuration files.

I hadn't played with /etc/mactab: I'll have to try it with the next FC4 box
I have in hand. Nice catch.

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Andreas Janssen    Posted: 2006-01-31 11:54:29    Length: 1,456 byte(s)
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Hello

(Follow-Up set to comp.os.linux misc)

F. Baker ([baker@deslab.mit.edu]) wrote:

QUOTE
I have a Dell Latitude C640 and the onboard wireless is
no good anymore.

The laptop has Fedora Core 3 installed and otherwise is working
well.

I need a recommendation for a wireless card for this laptop that
is 100% bulletproof and foolproof with Fedora Core 3 -- kernel-level
recognized with driver and no major installation headaches.
Please advise.

I recently bought a Netgear WG511T card. It is compatible to 802.11a/b/g
modes and supports 802.11i security (including "WPA2"). It is supported
by the madwifi drivers (http://www.madwifi.org) and is also compatible
to recent versions of wpa_supplicant and hostapd. However I do not know
whether your distribution includes the madwifi drivers.

best regards
        Andreas Janssen

--
Andreas Janssen [andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com]
PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270
Registered Linux User #267976
http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Unruh    Posted: 2006-01-31 12:04:45    Length: 1,479 byte(s)
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"Michal Jaegermann" [michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca] wrote in message
news:dro39v$d4p$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
In comp.os.linux.portable Nico Kadel-Garcia [nkadel@comcast.net] wrote:


And for reference with wireless cards: life can get very strange if your
wireless card winds up showing up as eth0 when installed, and moves the
built-in network device to eth1. Getting the kernel modules associated
with
the correct network device and the eth0 and eth1 setups associated with
the
right devices can be an adventure.

So why embark on it?  Tying HWADDR to each device will prevent these
from moving around and 'neat', a.k.a. 'system-config-network', should do
that for you.  In any case you can always edit
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* files and add that yourself.
Also 'nameif' is called by network scripts which implies that you can
use /etc/mactab to name your network devices.  See 'man nameif'.

man nameif says that this only works for Ethernet devices. Now, I do not
know if a wireless card is considered an ethernet device, but the use of
nameif in ifup seems to exit before the wireless are set up, so I suspect
now.

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: Nico Kadel-Garcia    Posted: 2006-01-31 13:51:12    Length: 1,955 byte(s)
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"Unruh" [unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca] wrote in message
news:dro5bd$dir$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
QUOTE

"Michal Jaegermann" [michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca] wrote in message
news:dro39v$d4p$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
In comp.os.linux.portable Nico Kadel-Garcia [nkadel@comcast.net] wrote:


And for reference with wireless cards: life can get very strange if
your
wireless card winds up showing up as eth0 when installed, and moves the
built-in network device to eth1. Getting the kernel modules associated
with
the correct network device and the eth0 and eth1 setups associated with
the
right devices can be an adventure.

So why embark on it?  Tying HWADDR to each device will prevent these
from moving around and 'neat', a.k.a. 'system-config-network', should do
that for you.  In any case you can always edit
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* files and add that yourself.
Also 'nameif' is called by network scripts which implies that you can
use /etc/mactab to name your network devices.  See 'man nameif'.

man nameif says that this only works for Ethernet devices. Now, I do not
know if a wireless card is considered an ethernet device, but the use of
nameif in ifup seems to exit before the wireless are set up, so I suspect
now.

The pcmcia/network init script thing is a problem. The pcmcia needs to be
called *FIRST*, then the network init script, for everything to work right
in RedHat land. It's easy enough to shift the order of those init scripts by
editing the scripts and re-running the chkconfig command to reset all the
symlinks for them.

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Subject: recommend wireless card for fedora core 3 (Dell Latitude C640)
Author: linuser    Posted: 2006-02-01 03:23:38    Length: 848 byte(s)
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tell me the truth!




"F. Baker" [baker@deslab.mit.edu] ????
news:43def44e$0$568$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
QUOTE
I have a Dell Latitude C640 and the onboard wireless is
no good anymore.

The laptop has Fedora Core 3 installed and otherwise is working
well.

I need a recommendation for a wireless card for this laptop that
is 100% bulletproof and foolproof with Fedora Core 3 -- kernel-level
recognized with driver and no major installation headaches.
Please advise.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

baker@deslab.MIT.edu
1/31/05


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